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		<title>By: mom to be</title>
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		<dc:creator>mom to be</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 07:29:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think foster parents should account for a good portion of the money that they get from doing foster care.  When I was a foster parent, one of the little boys step-mother&#039;s (father and step-mother had custody and lost it) was upset because I would not buy his clothes at the salvation army or at garage sales.  I saw nothing wrong with buying his clothes from the store I shopped in for everyone else in the home.  It even got to the point that when he would go home for visits, the step mother would have him change his clothes and send his back in things that were too small or ripped and stained.  I was also told I was spoiling him too much for taking him places with us, and I should not be getting him things.  When we went for the foster parent classes we were told we should treat any foster child like they were part of our family.  this is exactly what we did.  My point is you cant make everyone happy and the money does not matter.  In fact the amount we were given to foster was spent directly on the children.  Foster care should not be a job. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think foster parents should account for a good portion of the money that they get from doing foster care.  When I was a foster parent, one of the little boys step-mother&#8217;s (father and step-mother had custody and lost it) was upset because I would not buy his clothes at the salvation army or at garage sales.  I saw nothing wrong with buying his clothes from the store I shopped in for everyone else in the home.  It even got to the point that when he would go home for visits, the step mother would have him change his clothes and send his back in things that were too small or ripped and stained.  I was also told I was spoiling him too much for taking him places with us, and I should not be getting him things.  When we went for the foster parent classes we were told we should treat any foster child like they were part of our family.  this is exactly what we did.  My point is you cant make everyone happy and the money does not matter.  In fact the amount we were given to foster was spent directly on the children.  Foster care should not be a job.</p>
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		<title>By: Independ"ant"</title>
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		<dc:creator>Independ"ant"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:49:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This issue needs reform. . . . . my sister that fosters has tried to decline the payments. . . . . they don&#039;t need it.   The state she lives in makes her accept them. 


Its the same thing for social security. . . . . my grandmother told the IRS that she didn&#039;t want it and they still made her take the checks.   She would just end up giving it to charity. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This issue needs reform. . . . . my sister that fosters has tried to decline the payments. . . . . they don&#8217;t need it.   The state she lives in makes her accept them. </p>
<p>Its the same thing for social security. . . . . my grandmother told the IRS that she didn&#8217;t want it and they still made her take the checks.   She would just end up giving it to charity.</p>
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		<title>By: corcoranfaire</title>
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		<dc:creator>corcoranfaire</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not for normal payments, it is treated just like child support payments (you can spend them however you deem fit with no accounting).   Sometimes however, you are given a special amount, like when you first get a child or a clothing allowance that you might be asked to show receipts.   Us and everyone I know who does foster care spends much more than we are given in payments for our children. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not for normal payments, it is treated just like child support payments (you can spend them however you deem fit with no accounting).   Sometimes however, you are given a special amount, like when you first get a child or a clothing allowance that you might be asked to show receipts.   Us and everyone I know who does foster care spends much more than we are given in payments for our children.</p>
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		<title>By: Looney Tunes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Looney Tunes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 06:18:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Kazi,

There is not a system that requires people to account for &quot;how&quot; they spend the foster care money.   The money is supposed to be utilized for shelter, food, utilities, clothing, toys, etc that would be part of the &quot;family&quot;  and being a member of that family.  

Some states have clothing allowances every 3 months and some have allowances for kids to get things like camp, school rings, prom dresses, etc.   Some have allowances for holidays, as well. 
In some cases, you have to apply for those &quot;extra&quot; allowances. 

Now, after living in several foster homes that I KNOW did not use the money appropriately, I am convinced that their should be some checking done.  
Some simple things are:
1)  Ask the foster child if they are getting enough to eat.   What they are eating.   3 meals a day?  snacks?  
Food is often a good indicator if their are money problems.   
Remember though, that most foster kids are eligible for free breakfast and lunch.   But when not in school, what and how are they eating?

2)  Ask about clothes and make notes about appearance when the workers &quot;show-up&quot; for their monthly visit.   Are clothes too small, dirty, wore-out.   Look in their closet or dresser.   Do they have several outfits?   or just a few?  What about underwear?  Are there several pairs of underwear?  Kids grow quick. . . . 

3) Ask about toiletries.   Do the kids have deodradant, shampoo, soap, etc.   When people don&#039;t have enough money, these things become a second thought and the kids might not have any. 

While this does not indicate that the money is being spent appropriately, these things are indicators that finances might be a problem. . . . . . and that perhaps (a) the foster parents are not using the money correctly or (b) the foster parents don&#039;t have enough money to provide in general and should be dismissed as foster parents. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Kazi,</p>
<p>There is not a system that requires people to account for &#8220;how&#8221; they spend the foster care money.   The money is supposed to be utilized for shelter, food, utilities, clothing, toys, etc that would be part of the &#8220;family&#8221;  and being a member of that family.  </p>
<p>Some states have clothing allowances every 3 months and some have allowances for kids to get things like camp, school rings, prom dresses, etc.   Some have allowances for holidays, as well.<br />
In some cases, you have to apply for those &#8220;extra&#8221; allowances. </p>
<p>Now, after living in several foster homes that I KNOW did not use the money appropriately, I am convinced that their should be some checking done.<br />
Some simple things are:<br />
1)  Ask the foster child if they are getting enough to eat.   What they are eating.   3 meals a day?  snacks?<br />
Food is often a good indicator if their are money problems.<br />
Remember though, that most foster kids are eligible for free breakfast and lunch.   But when not in school, what and how are they eating?</p>
<p>2)  Ask about clothes and make notes about appearance when the workers &#8220;show-up&#8221; for their monthly visit.   Are clothes too small, dirty, wore-out.   Look in their closet or dresser.   Do they have several outfits?   or just a few?  What about underwear?  Are there several pairs of underwear?  Kids grow quick. . . . </p>
<p>3) Ask about toiletries.   Do the kids have deodradant, shampoo, soap, etc.   When people don&#8217;t have enough money, these things become a second thought and the kids might not have any. </p>
<p>While this does not indicate that the money is being spent appropriately, these things are indicators that finances might be a problem. . . . . . and that perhaps (a) the foster parents are not using the money correctly or (b) the foster parents don&#8217;t have enough money to provide in general and should be dismissed as foster parents.</p>
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		<title>By: gypsywinter</title>
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		<dc:creator>gypsywinter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ya&#039;ll might want to read this. .  Foster Care Maintenance Payments by State. . . . 

http://www. hunter. cuny. edu/socwork/nrcfcpp/downloads/foster-care-maintenance-payments. pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ya&#8217;ll might want to read this. .  Foster Care Maintenance Payments by State. . . . </p>
<p><a href="http://www" rel="nofollow">http://www</a>. hunter. cuny. edu/socwork/nrcfcpp/downloads/foster-care-maintenance-payments. pdf</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
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		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They get a reimbursement and it is no where close to what you (hopefully if you are doing this for the kids and not the money) spend on them.   
They tell you the money is not meant to cover all expenses just help.   I
For instance in our state/county we get in our check 21. 51 every month in clothing allowances for our foster son.   Sorry but i spend way more than that.  He is 6 months i went to GAP yesterday and spent 50. 00 alone on him on clothes and that was just a few things.  Then i got 1 pair of stride rite shoes for 42. 00.     I way over spent his clothing allowance.   
Then we get in my county which is the highest paid in the state because of an overwhelming need 20. 00  a day for  room and board for babies I think it goes down for older kids.   Well formula diapers wipes alone take more than half the check.   we aren&#039;t even going to go into the money we spent on Christmas.  
I am not complaining we love him and want him to have everything he needs.   My point is if you take care of foster kids as if they were your own you should have no issue accounting for all the money.   
I do think that is a good idea though for those who foster for the money.  However there are lots of things that that having extra people in your home can increase your expensies.   Food, utility bills, laundry detergent, gas taking them to school and or sports and doctors appointments.  
It is a good idea in theory but I don&#039;t think it will work
Now I think that the social workers at least in my state need to do this more than once a year.   They do a minimum needed.  They look through the kids clothes toys and their  personal things .   They have a list of what the state thinks the minimum amount of things should be. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They get a reimbursement and it is no where close to what you (hopefully if you are doing this for the kids and not the money) spend on them.<br />
They tell you the money is not meant to cover all expenses just help.   I<br />
For instance in our state/county we get in our check 21. 51 every month in clothing allowances for our foster son.   Sorry but i spend way more than that.  He is 6 months i went to GAP yesterday and spent 50. 00 alone on him on clothes and that was just a few things.  Then i got 1 pair of stride rite shoes for 42. 00.     I way over spent his clothing allowance.<br />
Then we get in my county which is the highest paid in the state because of an overwhelming need 20. 00  a day for  room and board for babies I think it goes down for older kids.   Well formula diapers wipes alone take more than half the check.   we aren&#8217;t even going to go into the money we spent on Christmas.<br />
I am not complaining we love him and want him to have everything he needs.   My point is if you take care of foster kids as if they were your own you should have no issue accounting for all the money.<br />
I do think that is a good idea though for those who foster for the money.  However there are lots of things that that having extra people in your home can increase your expensies.   Food, utility bills, laundry detergent, gas taking them to school and or sports and doctors appointments.<br />
It is a good idea in theory but I don&#8217;t think it will work<br />
Now I think that the social workers at least in my state need to do this more than once a year.   They do a minimum needed.  They look through the kids clothes toys and their  personal things .   They have a list of what the state thinks the minimum amount of things should be.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 05:12:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The money is there to support the child in a lot of ways that can&#039;t directly be accounted for.   By that I mean for food and other expenses that don&#039;t remain.   In our area there is a minimum clothing and supply list that is supposed to be met and when the child leaves to go to another home or to return to his/her home the items on that list are supposed to be going with him/her.   Clothing, toys, luggage and other personal items are all supposed to be accounted for and remain the property of the child and they are essentially paid for from that monthly money.   As long as the child is well fed, cared for, clothed and has what he/she needs as for the departmental standards there is no other accounting for the money that goes on.   Mind you, if you do that then the money must be spent on the child because it takes what is given to ensure that is met. . . and then some.   The &quot;takers&quot; are weeded out just by virtue of the system already in place in the vast majority of cases. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The money is there to support the child in a lot of ways that can&#8217;t directly be accounted for.   By that I mean for food and other expenses that don&#8217;t remain.   In our area there is a minimum clothing and supply list that is supposed to be met and when the child leaves to go to another home or to return to his/her home the items on that list are supposed to be going with him/her.   Clothing, toys, luggage and other personal items are all supposed to be accounted for and remain the property of the child and they are essentially paid for from that monthly money.   As long as the child is well fed, cared for, clothed and has what he/she needs as for the departmental standards there is no other accounting for the money that goes on.   Mind you, if you do that then the money must be spent on the child because it takes what is given to ensure that is met. . . and then some.   The &#8220;takers&#8221; are weeded out just by virtue of the system already in place in the vast majority of cases.</p>
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		<title>By: Opedial</title>
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		<dc:creator>Opedial</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 04:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, we didn&#039;t, and really thank goodness.   How do you account for extra food, and extra utilities?  We would not use all the clothing budget one month but go on a spree when there was a sale.   We as foster parents needed that discretion.   WE also paid for them to do gymnastics and things like that. 

I see the point of having to account, but in reality when you have four foster children you don&#039;t have time to book keep, because you are:

Taking care of four children
Taking children to and from visits with their parents 
Endless meetings with social workers
Journalling all children&#039;s behaviour
Regular parental type duties

there is just no time for accounting.   But really the payments received was so low there would not be that much to account for!~</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, we didn&#8217;t, and really thank goodness.   How do you account for extra food, and extra utilities?  We would not use all the clothing budget one month but go on a spree when there was a sale.   We as foster parents needed that discretion.   WE also paid for them to do gymnastics and things like that. </p>
<p>I see the point of having to account, but in reality when you have four foster children you don&#8217;t have time to book keep, because you are:</p>
<p>Taking care of four children<br />
Taking children to and from visits with their parents<br />
Endless meetings with social workers<br />
Journalling all children&#8217;s behaviour<br />
Regular parental type duties</p>
<p>there is just no time for accounting.   But really the payments received was so low there would not be that much to account for!~</p>
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		<title>By: Jackie B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jackie B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:57:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether or not the money is enough to raise a child, I&#039;m sure there going to be people who will use the  money for themslves.   

I think receipts should be kept and be produced on demand for proof, at least periodically.   It might be a record keeping nightmare to maintain separate receipts.   Food on the other hand, I can see virtually impossible to keep separate.   

Somehow though, I don&#039;t see accountability to where every penny goes is going to be something easily done. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether or not the money is enough to raise a child, I&#8217;m sure there going to be people who will use the  money for themslves.   </p>
<p>I think receipts should be kept and be produced on demand for proof, at least periodically.   It might be a record keeping nightmare to maintain separate receipts.   Food on the other hand, I can see virtually impossible to keep separate.   </p>
<p>Somehow though, I don&#8217;t see accountability to where every penny goes is going to be something easily done.</p>
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		<title>By: aloha.girl59</title>
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		<dc:creator>aloha.girl59</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Nov 2009 03:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We didn&#039;t. 

We fostered our son in California before adopting him.  We were given a monthly check to help with our son&#039;s clothing and food costs, etc.  No, it&#039;s not enough to raise a child.  I can&#039;t imagine how anyone MAKES money off of having foster children in their home.  My son didn&#039;t wear designer clothes and we certainly didn&#039;t buy new cars or take fancy vacations on his check! We&#039;d have had to starve the poor boy and let him wear last year&#039;s clothing if we wanted to see a &#039;profit. &#039; 

How disgusting. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We didn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>We fostered our son in California before adopting him.  We were given a monthly check to help with our son&#8217;s clothing and food costs, etc.  No, it&#8217;s not enough to raise a child.  I can&#8217;t imagine how anyone MAKES money off of having foster children in their home.  My son didn&#8217;t wear designer clothes and we certainly didn&#8217;t buy new cars or take fancy vacations on his check! We&#8217;d have had to starve the poor boy and let him wear last year&#8217;s clothing if we wanted to see a &#8216;profit. &#8216; </p>
<p>How disgusting.</p>
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